dark cognac shell cordovan
I have been thinking of getting a pair of cordovan shoes to wear with semi-formal attire. They simpy cost too much to take the chance, in my view. But Im afraid no, I dont think they would work with smarter trousers like flannels. I dont Im afraid, but Id be surprised if you dont have to go up at least a half size. I prefer them in suede, but then thats probably subjective too. My Alden Norwegian bluchers feel substantially heavier than, say, calf Dovers from Edward Green. Ah, I see. Rubbing it vigorously has a similar effect, and produces more of a shine. Shell cordovan is given a full vegetable tannage and is then retanned, a process that takes over 6 months, to create a leather that has an exceptionally soft and smooth feel, rich earth-tone colors, and a bright, glossy look. Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. I have been looking to buy Cordovan 8 Alden Full Strap.I have tried Steffan. These Alden on the Aberdeen last are size 9 US, so roughly 8 UK, D width. Well, most people arent buying them as a waterproof shoe necessarily. Similar to Shell Cordovan, One of the few remaining shell cordovan tanneries, they are well known for their h. PRODUCT SPECS Article: Oiled Horse Butts Tannery: Shinki Hikaku (Japan) Tannage: Vegetable Tanned Full Grain: Yes Cut: Horse Butts Grain (Top): Smooth with Rustic Characteristics Flesh (Bottom): Smooth Firmness: Medium 6/10 Yield: 75% . Im a little particular about a belt being similar i colour to the shoe colour. And I prefer the Alden shade of the colour 8 cordovan too. Brushing will always help with calf too see video on that kind of care here, But its much more possible with cordovan. Problem is, too, that most people cant wait 12 years for the fit to be right! Would you consider adding any cordovan accessories? I have had two very different experienced with Cordovan. The production of Horween's Genuine Shell Cordovan is limited and this company has known how to take care of its reputation, since it only sells to prestigious shoe makers such as Carmina Shoemaker. Cordovan comes as far as maintenance goes right after suede. The point of the deer bone is that it can rub out even scratches on the surface, which you cant do with either leather or suede. Natural. Interested to hear any thoughts (from you or anyone), I wouldnt wear a cordovan belt probably, but I have a wonderful cordovan notebook, which has aged very well (here) and I like the T-style wallet in cordovan too. I think its because the cordovan is a single, flat colour and so doesnt get as much of the variation of other colours like no 8 shown here. Or should I worry about getting Cordovan Loafers later? If you do, I wouldnt compromise now and regret it in a year when you could then afford a second pair. 1. Yes thats right. My Alden Tassel Loafers on the Aberdeen last in the E fitting (Aldens widest fitting), are my most comfortable shoes. Production Notes Made in USA Machine Sewn #5 YKK Excella Zipper Horween Cordovan Pull-Tab Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan Dimensions 4.125 3.25 0.5 Sure! Original Price USD 132.00 Minimal and understated with no unnecessary detail or branding, the Harlestone sets the benchmark for handmade Dress Sneakers that are often copied but never matched. If it were you, what do you think you would have done? I like how those are slim but not TOO slim if you know what I mean. Our Opinion: Shell cordovan is our favorite leather out there, no question. Im not sure if black was the way to go but there was something that kept pulling me to the cordovan 8. Or at the very least, for the first day or two after wear. Take care. Plenty of people do wear topsiders, or boat shoes, over here too. Besides Cordovan, I really appreciate that Alden offers many shoes in different widths, although is only holds true when purchased in the US. I have two Alden Barrie cordovans one 6.5EE, and another in 7E. Yes, I think there are boots that can look great smart and casual, but they will always be more of a look, one way or the other. I see. Or did I choose the wrong colour? Cordovan is the layer of the hide between the subcutis and dermis. However, just because a shoe works with lots of looks, it doesnt mean youre not losing something, and it is a little unusual as a colour so I can imagine not everyone will like it. All my other pairs are dark brown suede or traditional calf (black/brown). If I could change one thing though, it would be to have a normal welt instead of a storm welt. USD 135.00, USD 150.00 They may the second largest producer after Horween. In the US, at least, and speaking solely about each companys cordovan offer, their pricing is very similar. Do you think that the cordovan loafer are as versatile as a pair of brown loafer? I especially enjoy it punched and brogued. Our Hand Stitch Collection is the pinnacle of luxury, handmade sneakers. Thanks Do you wear your loafers a half size larger than your jumper boots? Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. Great look. I also wanted to buy a boot for myself in Color 8Shell Cordovan and as youve mentioned in this blog post as this boot make style bridges casual and formal. You just brush or wipe it off. Before it bloom, yes its pretty easy to take care of it, once it starts to bloom takes too much time after a downpour vs. calf. In one way, yes it is. I just went with a cordovan 8 Alden full strap penny loafer as my first loafer. Then begin with just a little bit of black polish, perhaps around the toe or heel. Additional Details. After repeated exposure to wet pavement the heel begins to bulge at the rim and one can see the layers. The full strap I think. Great! Any thoughts? Hi Simon, somewhat related to Pauls question as well as your more recent post on wearing loafers with jeans, Ive recently become interested in trying black tassel loafers with jeans (dark, selvedge denim). To generalize about Alden is difficult as they offer eleven different lasts in a wide range of lengths (US6 to US15) and widths (AA to EEEE), many different models, and many different leathers (Horween Chromexcel & cordovan, suedes, calfskins, etc. Thanks. Theyll look normal leather to most people, but will have that toughness, Hi Simon, I usually wear size UK8.5 E for most loafers. But I must say I rather like the ripples, and when brown shell acquires an olive patina around the ripples with age, I absolutely love the effect. Its a nice shoe, but perhaps a little clompy for my style I prefer a split-toe myself. No I think youre right Paul, there is only a very small difference there and it will look fine. Any particular misgivings about Carmina? They seem to be similar to my childhood notion of what an adult mens shoe looked like. Thanks Quentin. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. If you're in between sizes, size up. USD 152.00, USD 190.00 Ive just noticed Are those pressed creases on your jeans? $22.00 sold out. No problem at all. 8 by any chance? I purchased a pair of Alden shell loafers that are just a tiny bit tight. Im afraid not, no. More unusual shades among the regulars from left to right (excluding the last Chromexcel specimen): Dark Cognac. Currently at 260, I feel like I cant really beat AEs quality at this price point. I think black cordovan can wear well like that. I had these loafers for years but eventually the cordovan gave out at one of the ripples. A very elegant and distinctive casual shoe. I wouldnt say its that extreme, but it will depend a lot on the last shapes as well. Dark Green Shell Cordovan Rally Strap $175.00 AUD. A classic silhouette and design that sits effortlessly between smart and casual and is equally at home paired with everyday trousers or a tailored suit. A fast brush will not only remove dirt, but the friction will build up heat that brings back oils and shine to the leather. Simon, curious to know if you have any thoughts on the last post re: quality of cordovan sourced by makers. I have wanted a pair of cordovan tassel loafers for decades. It also added a layer of love visiting the Horween tannery in Chicago last year (shown below). I was thinking of the boots with Barrie. Color #8 is a deep brown/burgundy shade that has become synonymous with the color name "cordovan". Continually pushing the boundaries of high-quality, casual-led footwear; Crown Northampton confidently produces what is now the ultimate handmade in England Dress Sneaker collection. Yes I think those Vass would have been good had they been the correct size. The thin, durable leather makes it a pleasure to wear on the wrist any month of the year. Thank you kindly. Traditionally cordovan has not been that popular in the UK probably due to supply (and cost). Thank you. /ALDEN SHELL CORDOVAN Tassel Loafer: 41-41.5D /ALDEN for Brooks Brothers SHELL CORDOVAN Tassel Loafer /Alden 06599 Cognac Calfskin Tassel Loafer | Alden Model Project However, my aim would be flannels and knitwear at the very smartest (anything smarter, Id instinctively reach for suede tassels), mostly denim (regular fit ie. Please do contact our CX Team, we'll be delighted to assist you. This was not easy, and required a trip to the Madison Avenue store in New York. Correct me if Im wrong, but havent I seen you wear suede shoes with pretty smart suits? They are wide and flat, so theoretically, I would need pretty wide lasts to be comfortable. But from what you write here about comfort and opting for the larger size (if in doubt) I figure that I ought to go for the size 8,5/ E rather than trying my luck on a pair in size 8,5 D ? Much appreciated. It is 100% vegetable-tanned. I have seen that, and it does look like a nice colour. Hi, Out of any leather in the world, it ages very well giving the wearer the perfect amount of patina. Saphir Creme Cordovan. Theyre really nice. Prioritising comfort/space. Captcha failed to load. Thank you. You were mentioning the armoury/fukuda lasts. Im also a newcomer to shell cordovan, but I am hooked. The loafers shown above - my Alden full-straps on the Aberdeen last - look almost black in this light. Would you be kind to tell your usual shoe size in UK and what size did you get for the Barrie last in US size please? One question I have and this is admittedly thinking ahead somewhat is where can i go in the UK to get them resoled should they wear out? Your BB were by Alden and pretty sure all Alden Shell Cordovan has this acrylic finish, most others dont add that to their shell. Hey Simon, The reason for that is I went with a narrower last than is standard (the Aberdeen, rather than the Van). Have you got them stretched by cobbler? Sale Price USD 69.70 Do you have any tips to reduce that sound ? The quality of Aldens soles is rather poor. Given they are similar to black calf in coloir. Would you suggest not relying too much on the measurements like you advise with tailoring? . Yes, Id say Alden is my preferred brand, though theres some discussion about pluses and minuses of them in the comments above. Burgundy calf doesnt quite cut it either. A jean with a leg that slim looks silly with a normal Alden loafer on the bottom. The cultural association of shoes is fascinating to me. Your Aldens might look great with suits. It does vary, and it will darken as you wear them too. $ 123.99 USD. Normally I wear 8.5 E in all EG lasts. Never been big on even smart chukkas or chelseas either unfortunately, especially because the Canadian west coast is a relentless sea of Blundstones. Should be an easy ship across the pond. Yes, you've heard right, Shell Cordovan the cream of the crop when it comes to luxurious quality shoe leather is now available. And thanks on the vintages, I didnt realise that. $36.00 One Piece Shell Cordovan Belt - Black. Maybe its my feet which are bit biased towards the outer sides but I had to put in some extra insole in my two twenty year old pairs perhaps eight years ago, as they have become wider and my feet began to slip noticeably. Works like a charm and that is all they need as regards shoe care products. My experience is different. Horween Shell Cordovan Indiana Men's Dress & Formal Shoes All Auction Buy It Now 125 Results US Shoe Size Shoe Width Color Brand Theme Condition Price Buying Format All Filters NEW $670 Meermin Horween Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Field Boot Size 11 HOK Last $399.00 $36.15 shipping or Best Offer 11 watching Given how color 8 is meant to get washed with time, would love to see a follow up post on how your loafers have aged. Hopefully this clarifies the question! Said that, most of our lasts are UK E width (medium/regular fit) and you most likely will be wearing the same size across many of them. Im afraid I dont know any UK retailers of Aberdeen full strap loafers, either. Ive always somehow found that look somehow silly on me. But but they feel so uncomfortable around my toes. Cordovan always seemed a little dull by comparison. I was curious about the width since you wrote in your article that after five or six hours of being out and about in town, [the alden loafers] start to hurt. Original Price USD 150.00 which affects the value point. I have relatively slim legs compared to my feet width. Simon I just received a pair of Alden Cordovan chukkas, do you recommend shoe trees for storage? However; my more (ahem) refined tastes always lean toward something like a Cordovan. I have two pairs of Cordovans from Vass. Have you seen this article on shoes with brown trousers? Quite possibly an accidental darker shade of Cognac Cordovan. Gunmetal, dark and metallic grey. Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan Single Pass NATO, leather watch strap, Handmade CBailLeather (53) $104.00 FREE shipping More colors Full Horween Shell Cordovan Airtag and Moneyclip Wallet With Optional Key Fob Airtag Holder Avaiable In Multiple Colors Handmade in the USA LoFiLeathercraft (32) $25.00 FREE shipping Cheers! He will know how much cloth he uses for his shirts. Or did you size down 1/2 on the barrie? At the very least, if you think that on leather for shoes, you should be a vegetarian. Thanks Simon! Original Price 177.63 I would avoid that combination unless it really would be an exception shoe with a lot of other more versatile shoes in the collection. It benefits hugely from brushing, and from buffing (rubbing). Does the colour 8 vary that much from pair to pair? Simon, you mention your black cordovan loafer from E. Green and your relative lack of enthusiasm for it when compared with color 8. But the sole is thicker too. But I wouldnt wear them with smarter trousers like cavalry twills, or with a jacket. It was a great decision in that the loafers look lovely. To start with, both use Horweem cordovan. Shell Cordovan is really quite a stellar leather to wear. Thank you. And second, its tough and pretty much waterproof. Perhaps because it is a multi-generation family-owned business with a unionized workforce that sells everything they produce? Theres so much oil in there already, and you risk getting white lines in the creases. Because cordovan is shiny - it has a natural shine, and one that comes quickly back with buffing - it should be rather smart. Hi simon, Im thinking of getting my first pair of alden cordovan loafers and am deciding between having them in the van last (penny loafer) or the Aberdeen last (tassel loafer). Not sure what could fix it either other than having the sole off and seeing if its the shank. Worldwide shipping included on all footwear orders. Customers are liable for any local duties incurred at the shipping destination. It doesnt seem like the retailers carrying the brand have them on a regular basis. We recommend checking our Lasts page for a more detailed description of each of the lasts we currently have in production. But then that might also mean your heel slips more. Please. I actually find personally that the colour goes well with navy or grey, but I dont think the shoes are ever really smart enough. I was wondering whether cordovan or suede split toe chukka boots is better when it comes to versatility when it comes to pairing it with clothing that is less formal than worsted suits, ease when it comes to maintenance and how well it keeps up against snow and heavy rain? Thank you. How do you feel about the morality and integrity of supporting this? But they do have particular ties to the US Northeast, just because they became popular there, and were worn more in that community. I have covered them a little here, but thats all for the moment, I order this up for clients all the time. I guess it might be your feet, but then again I havent worn mine for 12 years either. Thanks for your reply, Simon. Shell Cordovan is KREIS' leather of choice for keycases. Shinki has been in business since 1951 and are one of the few remaining tanneries producing this special article. Indeed, traditionally it was considered a formal leather, to wear with tailoring rather than denim. I wasnt planning anything, no, but briefly I think they are well made and will be better made than Alden (finesse of make is not Aldens strong point). Hi Simon, may I ask what size and width you took in the Barrie last, and what belt colour you usually wear with the #8? I went to my local shops selling alden loafers and the cordovan loafers look more purple/significantly less dark than any of the cordovan shoes in your pictures above However, Alden also put an extra coat on their cordovan when they receive it, making their colour 8 slightly darker and deeper. I cant put my finger on exactly what makes these distinctly less formal than the Aldens, but theyre also one of Vibergs most formal offerings. You briefly mention white marks that can appear in creases from using cream, but my understanding is that cordovan naturally produces oils that can cause a white film. The shopkeeper guy suggested me to get 7.5 as they will stretch. Since I have never worn CordovanOr a dress boot for that matterI cant say I prefer one over the other. Brush of dust and buff them, and youre done in 99% of cases. Obviously thats niche interest (perhaps just me) but it could be an opportunity to flex some skills with a different set of constraints. Thank you in advance. Quick Release Spring Bars. I dont really ever try to match shoes.and belts it risks looking too affected and matchy. There are lots more things we could say about cordovan: other tanneries, whether the extra expense is worth it, the particular costs of buying Alden in Europe at the moment. Nick Horween has said that most horse hides he gets are from Canada where horses are eaten, so the skins are by products. Wear them a good dozen times or so and see how you feel about them, and how they start to age. Also the Cavendish is my first pair of Crocketts and Im now inclined for more. Thanks for the correction Ill change it now. 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