1957 collision over pacoima
Pam and I have exchanged condensed life stories via email as we didnt talk much that night. My name is Phil Smith. Susy M Kay says: The first kid to see it saw the impact flash. Clearly this photo was taken a few weeks after the crash. I was walking out the school gate when I heard and then saw the DC 7 crashing. Several times she came back to a pair of shoes. It seems like the majority of people who witnessed the crash and/or its aftermath developed the same fear. In 1987 the crash was spotlighted again in the movie La Bamba as the reason Richie Valens, the 50s rock icon and Pacoima favorite son, was afraid to fly. and Beachy. To me, the most nightmarish aspect was the screaming sound the plane made as it fell. A school official tries to calm the students by announcing, It was a jet blast. Evans mom, Irene Johnson Meddy Elsner was my grandma Ruth Johnson Launs cousin .. Later, there was some kind of dedication ceremony that my grandparents flew out to from Chicago. I didnt have a WordPress account at the time I was trying to listen last week. Meanwhile, in Palmdale to the north . I was a student at Beachy Avenue School that day of 1/31/1957. He was injured as well but remembered what I couldnt. Thanks again for providing such a helpful service for those who need it and thank you especially for your sensitive and very specific comments to each person who has written his/her account. Its interesting to read all of the comments. I remember your pastors father, Rev. Later I returned to my regular class and started hearing rumors which I did not believe. Thank you for sharing it with us. Who knows, I may have completely repressed those memories. So far, the responses suggest that listening to the tape and commenting about it has been helpful to many, if only because the post offers a forum where they can get their feelings about that day off their chests. My parents were friends with Evan Elsners parents, and we stayed at their Pacoima house several times in the years following the tragedy. I remember it mainly because two of my neighbor moms, Mary Jane Reid and Mrs. Harrington, were interviewed shortly after the crash. Linda made another speech that day. I read that the school does not have any kind of monnoument or something about the accident, which i think is a shame, couse even though such memories are hard to remember i think they should be remembered for the safety of children in the future, i think the school should definitely not just try to push the memories away and try to forget, because. Even though I never met Evan, I grew up hearing about what happened. Pacoima Jr High School Airplane Crash of 1957 - YouTube 0:00 / 2:15 Pacoima Jr High School Airplane Crash of 1957 Psycho Circus 325 subscribers Subscribe 92 Share 6.1K views 2 years. This is a bone chilling audio of a memory deep in my mind. Thank you very much for getting in touch. At 11:18 a.m., one moved into a wide turn 25,000 feet above the San Fernando Valley. (And I hope you dont mind that I included a link to your page.). Youre welcome. The wailing sound of the plane coming down alerted us on the gym field and allowed many of us to take protective measures such as running away from the expected impact area. I can only imagine the terror and bewilderment you and your classmates must have experienced in those moments. My mom moved me to the other end of the valley because of the violence. Coincidentally enough, your brothers chum, Richard Berger, wrote in to this blog two days after you did. If not, I have yours and Ill send it to you. Yeah, I do believe I would have been a wee bit nervous about flying in a type of plane that seems to keep crashing into other planes. When I first posted the crash audio and story, I wasnt sure what to expect. Im going through new comments now and I should have his up in a few minutes. But that day seems indelibly etched into the brains of those who were there, including my sister and father. That September, the brand new Liggett St. Many people consider the Pacoima crash to be an important event in their lives. Im glad I was able to provide a forum for a few of the witnesses and survivors. Another memory I have is of the television coverage. I was sixteen then and even though miles away and knowing no one envolved, yet I was very traumitized by such a horror. Hmmmm Cedros Ave was not in Pacoima, Cedros is two blocks west of Van Nuys Blvd, I used to live on that street off Parthenia. Link to the other page I am still amazed at the vivid detail in yours and others accounts. Also just recently read from another site that indeed coach Vardanien was there to help the wounded and later would be my PE teacher at Poly and a track coach at Poly. My mother received telegram condolences from all over the world -my father was in the Air Transport Command during WWII, then went to work for Seaboard & Western training pilots in various countries to fly the Douglas aircraft, then went to work for Douglas as a test pilot. Meanwhile, in Palmdale to the north, a pair of two-seater F-89J fighter jets took off at 10:50a.m. on test flights, one that involved a check of their on-board radar equipment. There was a small courtyard between our building and the building next to us. So one link lead to another and as I read all of the stories, it brings tears to me! I actually ended up on this page because i had a nightmare about me sitting in a plaine while it crashed in my school, and first when i google it i ended up on this page : http://dreammoods.com/cgibin/dreamdictionarysearch.pl?method=exact&header=dreamsymbol&search=plane about dream symnols interpretation, and actually its no wonder it crashedinto school since i feel so streesed about my exams and getting accepted into a university. Terry Brown. If I ever brought it up or talked about it, people in Northern California didnt know anything about it and thought I was being overly dramatic, so I just didnt talk about it. I have been avoiding hearing the tape until today. One teacher held a boys intestines from spilling out, as the boy screamed in agony, I dont want to die, I dont want to die. Teachers were everywhere, trying to comfort the injured. I was in the class with Mr. Snyder are you on facebook contact me. I may have only been five, but youd think I would remember the sound of the explosion or the sirens, considering that my mom and I were at the church adjacent to the school when the DC-7 came down. Gary. I didnt live close to the event but was scheduled to fly on a United DC7 on Feb. 2nd to boot camp on the East coast. Non censuram.Find The History Guy at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheHistoryGuyYT/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheHistoryGuyThe History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered is the place to find short snippets of forgotten history from five to fifteen minutes long. Since Id missed most of the 7th grade in Pacoima I had to start over in the 7th in Palmdale. One of the guys (last name Mitchell)was on the Poly High football team I was on and was one of the kids injured on the PJH field that day. I rarely get to southern California but I will be in the area on June 4 and June 5. As we ran outside I could see the carnage from the crash, some bodies and pieces of plane laying everywhere. As a five-year-old, I was home with my mom. Everyone dove under their desks and covered their heads.I did not. Again, thank you very much for your detailed glimpse into one of the San Fernando Valleys saddest days. When I connected Richards name with the picture I remember him. Yes, eerily so. Yours is one of the more terrifying accounts of that day. Women and men wept openly and copiously. TIME WISE, OTHERWISE MORE OF US WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE GYM FIELD. At first, I was hesitant to post the recording because of its potential for reawakening the horror in people like your husband. Try again later. Thanks again, Sheryl. Hi, Jim Wollensak was the brand of recorder, not the tape. Small wonder. I wonder what ever happened to Roy Reasoner? I remember dad once said (and I mean only once he rarely talked about that day) something about having to either identify or tend to (I cant remember which) a boy who had sustained a horrible head injury. I had Mrs. Oschatz for third grade and Mr. Marto for fourth. We have been married 35 years. My Great Uncle Mike aka Mike Galasso was in this. I think dad had given Paul a copy of the tape back then. Amazingly, a program in the school auditorium was being recorded, and the sounds of the crash can be heard here, as well as some eye-witness []. Thats all there is to it. She gave me Carols email as she lives in Simi as does my sister and she seemed like someone I would like to get to know better. Also, you might be interested in the Then and Now site about the crash. He mentioned that he used to pick me up at the same spot each day and that on that day part of the landing gear from the plane landed in the same spot. I do remember seeing shiny pieces of metal falling from the sky, though. Thanks for your comment and attaboy, I appreciate it. I felt comfortable enough with her at that point to poke around a little. He would pick up those black beetles crawling on the sidewalk on the way to Liggett elementary and torment kids along the way. I found your Pacoima crash page very informative and well written. Unable to find anything, we tasked ourselves to create one. I thought the church was being bombed, Doris McClain, 27, told The Times. If you mean Pacoima Junior, I saw it a few years ago and it still looks like the fine learning institution we knew. From one Poly High alum to another: Thanks for your perspective on that day. I saw a photo of a kid (student?) The post Dont Count Barbara Lee Out of the California Senate Race appeared first on The Nation. I saw the planes collide mid-air. I was five years Oldfield at a nearby nursery school when this happened. I like you, remember the crash vividly. [blog I dont think Ill ever get used to that word. Missing that day was pop star Ritchie Valens. Thanks for commenting. But please do not copy and paste any of the text to another site . An estimated 75 more students on the school playground suffered critical and minor injuries. There was a tree planted to honor each of the boys that were killed. My friend Donald Berizen was in his Boy Scout troop which was later named for him. I dont know if this is accurate, but it was what I was told at the time. I was told to leave and I started to run home. Ah, the good old days. Nanci mentioned walking home from Beach Ave. elementary. As soon as it disappeared on the horizon a large black plume of smoke appeared. Were you afraid of planes because of that event? I went to Santa Monica College, and graduated from a business college with a degree in accounting and had a successful 40-year carrer in administration/accounting, married my husband, whom I met while spending our summers at Lake Arrowhead, have one daughter who is 41 and we are now retired and moved in 2007 to Prescott, AZ, after spending 34 years in Pasadena. Do you remember a little girl who lived across the street named Nancy? Yeah, I liked Pacoima too a true melting pot, and we all got along pretty darned well, cholas, cholos and paddies, alike. I was a few blocks away at Montegue Elementary School (I believe 1st Grade) when I heard the roaring noise of the impending crash. I remember holding on to the chain link fence with both hands, trying make sense of it all. We drove home in silence. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B operated by Douglas Aircraft Company was involved in a mid-air collision with a United States Air Force Northrop F-89 Scorpion and crashed into the schoolyard of Pacoima Junior High School located in Pacoima, a suburban area in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, California. It was a warm day and our teacher had both doors to the classroom open. My sister was in the elementary school right next to the gym field. I dont have any memories of the actual crash but two people said they saw me running so I know I was awake for part of it. I remember when i was 12 and the dreams i had and how im now getting to fullfill them if i get accepted into university.I know maybe for you alot of other replays here are more interesting than mine since they seem to be from people who are from around your area or the tragic accidents. Stephanie Hoenig Reifsnyder. I just spoke with my Dad about seeing your website and he told me that when they learned of the crash near the school they ran over to find me. AS WE WERE RELEASED TO GO HOME THE SIGHT WILL NEVER LEAVE MY MY MIND. And when I got out my parents had moved us to Palmdale. I had chills up my spine when I heard your recording, like it was yesterday. When played back at normal speed, it will sound Chipmunked. The recording I posted is an exact copy of the original, although I did EQ it to bring out the voice and reduce tape noise. Unforgettable. Fire, kids screaming, people from the neighborhood filling the school yard, emergency vehicles trying to get in. April 3, 1957; UK Tests a Hydrogen Bomb May 15, 1957; Little Rock Crisis I only got to watch it for a few seconds. Thanks for your perspective on that day. I heard the planes crash, I watched the smoke rise, I ran inside our classroom with all the other kids wondering what we had just seen. Where are the pictures of this event? 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